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of achievement on the obama administration and ends up accepting argument at time it was red called. the theory that the penalty people pay if they choose not to follow the mandate is a tax, and falls in the government's taxes power. this argument, of course, was in great -- with the fact that obama administration and congress had disclaimed there was anything about the law that was a tax. >> when you went in to the argument, and thought about the case, you mentioned you were conscious about where you thought your stronger and weaker points were. how vulnerability did you think you were on that. >> can imagine almost anything. but that was not something that was keeping me up at night. and you just, you know, as a lawyer you got to be practical about this. and, you know, you look at, by the way, by the time we got to the supreme court we had a lot of models for opinions that, you know, upheld the law and a lot of models for opinions that struck the law down. and the overwheeling them was, you know, even the judges that july held the law didn't think much of the taxes argument, anne, you know, h
and be safer. >> is this is broader issue with the obama administration's response to the arab spring? >> in some regards, yes. i want to take a moment to commend tim as i have before in his leadership on after the tragedy on april 16th at virginia tech. at the time tim and all virginians united, learned from what went wrong and improved the safety of our colleges, and so, tim, i commend you again for that. now, in so sofaras national sciewrs, there's a lot of challenges facing us. we had an uprising in iran years ago when people wanted a free and just society in iran, and i just wish the president said we're on the side of those who want to change that thee i don'- theocracy. when ronald reagan called the soviet union the evil empire, that gave heart to the prisoners. if iran gets nuclear weapons, that needs to be prevented. you have worries about particularly in syria, a chemical weapon stockpiles, you have the tax on embassies and consulates in libya and egypt and elsewhere around the world. it's why it's so dangerous and wrong to be playing these political games with our armed ser
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